I was absolutely appaled when the flag-burning amendment failed to pass the senate by one vote. By one stinking liberal democrat vote. It would have been a great amendment that would have made this country stronger.
If that amendment would have passed, then flag burning would be illegal, as it should be. Well there’s no reason why we can’t try again, but we’ll have to get more incumbent democrats out of Congress before we can be successful in that.
Now when this amendment is finally passed, the punishment for breaking it will be that the offender will remain in jail until he agrees to be the main event in a special ceremony. He can stay one minute in jail, or a year in jail for all I care, but until he agrees to be the main event in the ceremony, he will not leave.
Now, this is the way that these ceremonies will go:
There will be many decorations and many festivities, first of all.
And when the liberal who burned the flag walks on stage, he will be booed. First he will walk up to the microphone, and he will say into the microphone how he loves the USA and how he loves Bush, and how he will never burn the flag again.
And then he will put his hand over his heart like a good American and he will say the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag, while facing a great big huge flag which will be hanging from the ceiling. And then he will put his hand over his heart again, and he will say the Pledge of Allegiance to the President* while facing a huge picture of Bush (or McCain, when McCain becomes president next January and replaces Bush) which will be hanging from the ceiling And then he will be presented with a smaller flag and a smaller picture of Bush (or McCain), and he will kiss the flag and the picture of Bush. He will then be cheered, and then even more festivities will begin.
Also, the government will have a State-owned TV channel through which these ceremonies will be broadcast on national television for all to see, and the money for that TV channel, and for the cameramen, the soundmen, and for the ceremonies themselves will be taken out of government entitlements for women, minorities, and welfare bums.
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*When I was a freshman, I thought up that if there is a Pledge of Allegience to the Flag, then there should certainly be a Pledge of Allegience to the President.
Pledge of Allegience to the President? The U.S. as a new Imperial Japan?
A flag is a symbol of a country, and burning it should give time in jail. We agree on that.
A president is nothing but an idiot who claims to support a given ideology, when in fact, all he supports is his and his homies’ interests. And I mean “idiot” regardless of political party.
What checks and balances are there to prevent the president from screwing up? None. Is the president uncapable of screwing up? No. So why should Americans pledge allegiance to the President? That would be against the values preached by the great founding fathers of the United States, and basically turn the U.S., which once was a great country, into a fascist police state that would make Mussolini proud.
I hope you’re joking Luke. This all sounds like something North Korea would do.
Nope, this is something that the USA used to do before the PC bastards got ahold of everything.
Mobs used to round up German Americans and force them to kiss the flag and sing the national anthem in front of everyone during WWI to prove that they were loyal to America, and not to Germany. And the German Americans didn’t even burn a flag or anything. So all I’m adding on from what’s already been done in the past is saying the pledge of allegiance to the president, and kissing a picture of the president.
And unlike back then, I’m proposing this only to be done to those who burn the flag. Not to anyone just for being a certain ethnicity.
Luke
This is sick and wrong.
Did you know that all tourists visiting North Korea have to bow to a big statue of their President?
Perhaps you’d be happier there….
No, nobody’s having to bow. They’re only having to kiss a picture and say a pledge of allegience to the president. I’m adding on two things from what was done in the past in America. Only two!!.
And we’re talking about people who have burned the flag here, not every random Joe off the street. There’s a clear difference, …K?
Kissing is a lot more intimate than bowing! I’d rather bow (well actually, I don’t think you should have to either bow or kiss anyone unless you want to).
The mind fucking boggles..
I suggest you stop acting like a frustrated jerk-off artist and either concentrate on your studies like a good little college boy or go join the forces in the middle east if you really want to come over all patriotic..
See if the experience brings you closer to understanding what really matters.
If you are the future of the MRM then the MRM is truly fucked..
Drex, your main hangout is (or at least was) Antimisandry, but this blog is not Antimisandry.
On Antimisandry, everybody is implicitly expected to be a libertarian.
But on Siberia Rocks!, that is not the case, and the slant of the blog is right-wing, not libertarian. You’re just going to have to get used to that.
Ha ha!! You know, if you think antimisandry is a libertarian site you could not be more mistaken!
All evidence I ever saw there was that some of the posters have libertarian leanings (Or did have, they have succeeding in driving out and banning most of them).
I would say that the site admins there are mostly statists and statists take on the mainstream political forms, of which the two major forms are of course the socialists and the conservatives.
But, dont be fooled.
If you think the state is correct in being the ultimate authority over what folk do with their time and their money then you will have to argue your case.
If the MRM seeks to use the state to force its agenda upon the masses it should show itself superior, morally and intellectually as well as physically to use this cudgel.
I have seen no evidence, nor real mass support for using the state as a tool to progress mens interests. Because, fact is, men dont need it..
The feminazi’s have much more support and thats sad fact of life, but perhaps you would consider your own actions and compare them to, say, the flag burners and see where your moral high ground is..
You think burning a flag is a big deal?
A flag is symbol. Its not a fucking baby. Its a piece of cloth. Get real.
Would you think it acceptable that you where jailed till you agreed to kiss the leader of the UN’s ass for burning that flag?
Would you still reccomend your course of action if the president was Hilary Clitiron?
Do you believe in the right to protest peacefully?
Or is it only ok for your and your own buddies?
Many in the MRM and the mainstream like to think they are being “fair” and also they like to think they have some moral high ground, but, like those dorks running Aunties messed panties you dont come across as having it when you make your own flag burning protests etc to progress your own cause, but would like to jail anyone else who does their thing.
Like many statists, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that when the laws you want come in, you will find you have shot yourself in the foot.
“Would you think it acceptable that you where jailed till you agreed to kiss the leader of the UN’s ass for burning that flag?”
No, because first of all the UN isn’t a country, and secondly I didn’t burn it when I was on the UN’s territory.
I don’t believe in extraterritorial laws in either the UN’s case or in the case of what I proposed in this article. Meaning that under the system that I propose in this article, somebody who burns a US flag over in France for example cannot be hauled over to the US in order to be prosecuted.
But, your not really serious are you?
Lets be honest here, you dont really think we should take you at your word do you?
Your just having a laugh eh?
I mean, you really cannot be serious..
Do you think that the president is like, a god or something?
Is the US constitution a religion?
Do you think its a good idea to worship a flag? Idolatry was forbidden in the bible wasn’t it?
That the symbol of freedom for the citizens of the US become a tool for oppressing them by force is rather paradoxical eh?
That the state can take itself so seriously as to even consider such legislation against those who disrespect a symbol is perhaps a good ploy to keep the fools off the scent of what is really happening in your fine nation.. That nation that you seem to automatically disrespect over 50% of them in preferrence to second worlders.. If Poland is such a great place, why not get the fuck over there? Oddly enough, here in the UK they all seem to want to come here!!
You havent answered the question regards hitlery clitiron, potential next president..
I guess you cant..
What would you think of folk who burn religious works?
Books etc?
I guess you dont consider that the UN covers the US.. Odd, because the US was one of the original founders of the UN..
The US is very much part of the UN, and indeed, the US takes a great interest in what is going on in other nations, often unilaterally.
Hey, go burn whatever you want, your bathroom sink seems to be a busy place..
@ Luke
Will you ever stop hating everything and everyone? You claim to be a proud American and you hate American values. Isn’t that ironic?
Its disrespectful to burn flags or any symbols held in high regard. Thats obvious.
The person doing such shows disrespect for the people who hold these symbols in high regard.
They shall be judged and treated accordingly, but I would rather see luke himself impose his own “summary justice” than ask either the state or any other all powerful mob to do it..
If I was to burn a flag, a symbol of the hopes and aspirations of a nation or a group, I would be saying more about myself and my attitude than anything else..
If those folk whose symbol is violated where to do nothing..
They would have the moral high ground..
They have supported the freedom they stand for, even at a cost to themselves..?
If they were to react angrily and oppress me for my symbolic protest, they would most certainly NOT have any moral high ground, indeed, they would show that they will oppress a person and violate his freedom. Paradoxically showing that they do not support freedom. And that would make a mockery of their symbol of freedom.. which is, after all, a symbol, not a person..
Anyway, think about it..
i burnd da flag of the beluga nation today. i has done this cuz i am hump(hooga hooga)back whale.
burn the motherfucking flag, see if i care. it shoudlunt be ilegall
god bless amerika and the gournd of gergre w. bush. he iz mah friend in christ.
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